I hate when people can't admit they're wrong.

Real arguement that took place on July 24th - 25th anything in italics I added after the fact. Enjoy!




XDaXBlessedX: u see pirate 2
kage1182: no I fucking hate thosemovies
XDaXBlessedX: how?
XDaXBlessedX: dude
XDaXBlessedX: destroyed spider man
XDaXBlessedX: destoyed aquaman for cryin out loud!
kage1182: ugh don't talk about this
kage1182: just go to be blog and read my post about pirates
XDaXBlessedX: what is it again
kage1182: http://putriddefiler.blogspot.com/2006/07/boycott-pirates-of-carribean-2-dead.html
XDaXBlessedX: ha
XDaXBlessedX: i think its a fun story is it mindblowingly new or differnt not really. bUT CAptin JAck is and thats what makes it great. Without Johnny being the greatest actor of this era then the movie would just be average
XDaXBlessedX: if thats wht ur tryin to say
kage1182: I'm trying to say
kage1182: is that it's a standard
kage1182: popcorn movie
kage1182: nothing more
XDaXBlessedX: oh yea
XDaXBlessedX: thas what it is
XDaXBlessedX: without a doubt
kage1182: and people act like it's the second coming of christ and I"m sick of it
XDaXBlessedX: and it knows thats what it is
XDaXBlessedX: well i think its just taht its such a great popcorn movie
XDaXBlessedX: which in the summer time is what people are looking for
kage1182: thats fine
kage1182: there's nothing wrong with it
kage1182: I'm just sick of people blowing their wad at the mention of it
XDaXBlessedX: oh im definilty one of those people. but thats cuase im in love with johnny depp and way before it became cool to be in love with him. But i can understand why u feel how u feel
kage1182: see I don't love johnny depp
kage1182: I don't love orlando bloom
kage1182: I don't love whats her face in the movie
kage1182: it's all so over blown
kage1182: they pump alot of money into a movie with stars no story really and BAM it's huge
kage1182: I think it represents what hollywood shouldn't be
XDaXBlessedX: i disagree it definlty has a plot. i agree that bloom and knightly suck. but johnny is not a bankable star so ucant really say that they throw a bunch of money to star
XDaXBlessedX: i mean like none of them has careed a blockbuster by themeslve
XDaXBlessedX: actually orlando is the only one in a blockbuster prob and that was lotr
XDaXBlessedX: which would have been just as good without him
kage1182: johnny depp is defintely a bankable star <---This is where the shit hit the fan.
XDaXBlessedX: no he isnt
kage1182: His name defintely sells this mvoie
kage1182: orlando bloom's name defintely sells the movie
XDaXBlessedX: his charector that he created sold it
XDaXBlessedX: but dude think of his movies
XDaXBlessedX: man there is not a single blockbust besides this one
kage1182: their is nothing ground breaking about their characters or this story that sells the movie
XDaXBlessedX: he takes on weird roles thats why he hias respect
XDaXBlessedX: but he isnt a tom cruise or a brad pitt
XDaXBlessedX: those guys get the seats filled
kage1182: I bet most of the people who see this movie are sexually attracted to johnny depp or orlando bloom or keira knightly
XDaXBlessedX: Captin jack is the reason people see it
kage1182: bullshit
kage1182: I'm sorry
XDaXBlessedX: ur forgiven
kage1182: you are so naive if you think thats true
XDaXBlessedX: no ur just being a huge negitive mo
kage1182: well
XDaXBlessedX: it doenst become the most grossing movie in opening weekend ever cuase people are hot
XDaXBlessedX: does that help sell
XDaXBlessedX: hell yea it doe
kage1182: Johnny depp is easily pulling in tom cruise and brad pitt money
XDaXBlessedX: but it doenst do that great because of it
XDaXBlessedX: no he isnt
kage1182: and his star power defintely sells this movie
kage1182: I don't see how you cannot see that
kage1182: it's so painfully obvious
XDaXBlessedX: dude u can read any artilcce about johnny that u want
XDaXBlessedX: before pirates 1 he was never considered a bankable star
XDaXBlessedX: except for way back in the day when he was a teen idol
XDaXBlessedX: but then consistantly did weird movies and didnt do what the studios would want him to do
XDaXBlessedX: and his movies always did good critically but not money wize
kage1182: he's a name
kage1182: he wasn't a nobody when the movie was made
XDaXBlessedX: he is a name that up until 3 years ago was sinonimous with weird charectors and risk
XDaXBlessedX: not blockbuster money making filmage
kage1182: no
kage1182: your so wrong
kage1182: what risk?
XDaXBlessedX: dude
XDaXBlessedX: u are
XDaXBlessedX: dept
kage1182: johnny depp?
XDaXBlessedX: depp
XDaXBlessedX: look it up
kage1182: he is a hearthrob
XDaXBlessedX: man he is horrible with producers
XDaXBlessedX: thats they hate him
kage1182: and orlando bloom?
kage1182: comeon?
XDaXBlessedX: they always see him as a risk
kage1182: this movie might as well been cast by MTV
XDaXBlessedX: and go look up an interview he did for charlie
XDaXBlessedX: he said if he isnt pissing off the producers then he doenst feel he is doing his job
kage1182: so?
XDaXBlessedX: thats risk
XDaXBlessedX: u asked me about risk
XDaXBlessedX: also
XDaXBlessedX: look at his movies
kage1182: how is that risk?
kage1182: I'm looking at them
XDaXBlessedX: they arnt blockbusters in any way
kage1182: so
XDaXBlessedX: he is a risky actor to cast becuase he does what he wants not what u tell him to do. he is risky actor cuase his movies dont usually make money
XDaXBlessedX: they are critically aclaimed usually
XDaXBlessedX: but make little money
kage1182: just because he prefered small films doesnt mean he isn't a household name
XDaXBlessedX: charlie is one that made no money
XDaXBlessedX: im not sayin he isnt a household name im sayin his house hold name doenst bring in enough people to make blockbuster money
kage1182: chocolat was HUGE
kage1182: blow was HUGE
XDaXBlessedX: i dont think so
XDaXBlessedX: it was hyped huge
XDaXBlessedX: but didnt make alot of money i dont think
kage1182: just because he was never in a movie that made the same amount of money as pirates doesn't mean he isnt a bankable name
kage1182: He's a name
kage1182: people recognize his name
kage1182: he has fans
kage1182: putting him in a movie will instantly guareentee you a built in audience
XDaXBlessedX: it took in 56 mil opening weekend
XDaXBlessedX: thats not really anything special
XDaXBlessedX: its above average probably
XDaXBlessedX: but its not anything special
kage1182: 56 mil opening weekend thats really fucking good?
kage1182: are you joking?
XDaXBlessedX: dude
kage1182: your streetching alot to win an arguement
XDaXBlessedX: fuckin sarah Machelle gellars movie um the grudge took in like 35 or something opening weeknd
XDaXBlessedX: so 56 to me isnt anything speical
XDaXBlessedX: its definlity not blockbuster matierial
XDaXBlessedX: its good
XDaXBlessedX: i didnt say it wasnt good
kage1182: just cuz he wasn't in a blockbuster before this doens't mean he isnt' a bankable star...
kage1182: k?
XDaXBlessedX: yes it does well it doepends on what ur going for
XDaXBlessedX: i never said his movis never made any money
kage1182: dude
kage1182: he's a name
kage1182: he has a built in audience
XDaXBlessedX: i just said that he has never been considerd bankable
kage1182: he guareentees tickets sold
kage1182: he is bankable
XDaXBlessedX: he probably does now
kage1182: cuz he's a star
XDaXBlessedX: but he didnt 3 years ago not at any higher level then a handful of other actors
kage1182: his biography says he achieved stardom in 1987 when he got a lead roll on 21 jump street tahts how long he's been a star
XDaXBlessedX: yea
XDaXBlessedX: i wachted that show
kage1182: pirates of the cariebean didn't launch him into stardom
XDaXBlessedX: dude turst me i know
XDaXBlessedX: yea
XDaXBlessedX: and he hated being a star
XDaXBlessedX: so his entire career has been about changing that perception of him
XDaXBlessedX: thats why he did crybaby
XDaXBlessedX: it was a parody of the life he hated having to lead
XDaXBlessedX: and then he did edward siccor hands u know why?
kage1182: he likes tim burton?
XDaXBlessedX: cause it was a weird ass role where he didnt look like a heart throb
kage1182: well guess what
kage1182: he still is one
XDaXBlessedX: and didnt have to play that roel
XDaXBlessedX: well true
kage1182: and he is a bankable star
XDaXBlessedX: u cant hide beaty all the time
XDaXBlessedX: he is no
XDaXBlessedX: he is now
kage1182: and you know the producers for pirates were like CHA CHING when he signed on to do the movie
XDaXBlessedX: ha <---Here I'm pretty sure he realizes he lost but his love for Johnny will not let him give up.
XDaXBlessedX: dude im not sayin like he is some low level c actor
XDaXBlessedX: but he wasnt A level like crowe cuise clooney
XDaXBlessedX: or jim carry even
kage1182: doesn't mean he isn't bankable
kage1182: there was very little risk when they made the first movie and virtually none by the second
kage1182: their squeezing it dry now with making the second and third at the same time
XDaXBlessedX: well it depends on what u mean like bankable like u can make a profit or bankable like ur gona be one of the best grosing movies of the season
kage1182: the second movie was throw away I read adding nothing significant to the story and just delaying for the third with a cliff hanger ending
kage1182: bankable like we're gonna make money on this movie
XDaXBlessedX: it was a fun movie but it was only half
kage1182: there was no risk when they signed johnny depp they knew they were making it back
XDaXBlessedX: ill say this id think most movies especially disney movies are gona make thier money back regardless
kage1182: ok so he is a bankable star
XDaXBlessedX: do i think they where full of joy they got johny to take the part sure. he is a great actor but do i think they thought he would bring in loads more of money i dont think that
kage1182: if they picked a nobody to play capt jack sparrow then fine I'd agree with you it must bet he performance
kage1182: but it's not
kage1182: it's johnny fucking depp
XDaXBlessedX: alot of girls think he is gorgeous but ask em to name 5 or 6 johnny moives
XDaXBlessedX: they cant
kage1182: it'd be like if matt daman and benn afleck played matt and jeff
kage1182: we'd know we were guareenteed a certain level of success
kage1182: thats cuz those girls don't love him as much as you matt <---Sarcasm.
XDaXBlessedX: its cuase they like the way he looks but they dont go run to the theatre to see his movies. Unless its already a hollywood ish movie
kage1182: of course they run to see his movieas
kage1182: do you know how many girls are like "I love pirates johnny/orlando are so hot!!!!"
XDaXBlessedX: they would say pirates siccorhands cuase its a classic now and maybe ssleepy hollow and charlie and thats it
XDaXBlessedX: yea right but they dont go see any other johnny movies
kage1182: it makes me sick to the stomach when I hear shit like that
XDaXBlessedX: do u think any of them saw chocolat
kage1182: your dragging this into a really dumb arguement
XDaXBlessedX: or the man who cried
XDaXBlessedX: no man
kage1182: I'm not gonna argue that girls don't see other johnny movies
kage1182: cuz obviously they do
kage1182: if they are johnny fans they see johnny movies
XDaXBlessedX: ur sayin people see johnny movies cuase he is hot
XDaXBlessedX: im sayin the think he is hot but that doenst corrolate into going to see his movie
XDaXBlessedX: only if its a movie that is alreayd considerd a popcorn flick
kage1182: makes no sense
XDaXBlessedX: finding neverland grossed 51mil its whole freaking time on screen

Auto response from kage1182: Matt is blinded by his love for Johnny Depp and can't see the truth.



seeing clerks 2

XDaXBlessedX: thats crappy as hell but johnny was the star of it
XDaXBlessedX: how come ur screemy girls didnt go see that one ?
XDaXBlessedX: the libertine grossed 4 mil total for its run on scree
XDaXBlessedX: thats horrible
XDaXBlessedX: secret window - 18mil opening weekend thats shit 41 mil total for its running time on screen
XDaXBlessedX: 47 rather
XDaXBlessedX: still not very good for a bankable star
XDaXBlessedX: once upon a time in mexico 23mil opening 55 total for its running on screen, not very impressive if u ask me
XDaXBlessedX: from hell 11 mil opening 31 total
XDaXBlessedX: Blow 12 mil and 52 mil respectivly
XDaXBlessedX: and i didnt just pick crappy movies
XDaXBlessedX: i went down the list in order.
2 HOURS LATER...
kage1182: accept the truth already
XDaXBlessedX: i gotta go to bed but i had the debate with my freind
kage1182: oh yeah
kage1182: anyone I know?
XDaXBlessedX: we decided bankable means ur movies usually gross 100mil in america
XDaXBlessedX: not opening weeknd or anything
XDaXBlessedX: but all told can make 1oomil
kage1182: that would be your defintion of bankable
XDaXBlessedX: cruise hanks will smith
kage1182: bankable means you bring money to the table
XDaXBlessedX: to u i guess
XDaXBlessedX: but not to me
XDaXBlessedX: just cuase ur a name doenst make u bankable
kage1182: so I have to adhere to your defintion?
XDaXBlessedX: i wouldnt call damon or affleck bankable
XDaXBlessedX: no u can make ur own definitly
kage1182: you know not every cruise movie makes 100m
kage1182: not ever tom hanks movie makes 100m
XDaXBlessedX: but we will just ocntinue to debate it till we have a similar def
kage1182: hence you defintion isn't accurate
XDaXBlessedX: yea tom hanks is 18
XDaXBlessedX: cruise hias 16
kage1182: ?
XDaXBlessedX: those are the first and second most
XDaXBlessedX: smith has 8
kage1182: 18 16 what?
XDaXBlessedX: 100mil grossing movies
kage1182: but they still don't all gross 100 mil
XDaXBlessedX: yea i know
XDaXBlessedX: i didnt say that they all have to
XDaXBlessedX: obviousy no one has done that
XDaXBlessedX: except some extra thats only been in one movie ha ha
kage1182: well you analyze all of depps movies demanding they all be bankable using your own defintion for bankable
XDaXBlessedX: jim carry has alot too
XDaXBlessedX: yea i did that
XDaXBlessedX: and they arnt even close mostly
XDaXBlessedX: there is about 3
XDaXBlessedX: that are
XDaXBlessedX: so to me thats not bankable
kage1182: whoops owned
XDaXBlessedX: whats that mean?
kage1182: Guaranteed to bring profit: a bankable movie star.
kage1182: doesn't mean grosses 100mil
kage1182: just means guaranteed to bring profit
XDaXBlessedX: whats that ur definition?
XDaXBlessedX: and u cant even say that
kage1182: click the link dingleberry
XDaXBlessedX: ok so orlando bloom we will take for example
kage1182: did you read it?
XDaXBlessedX: now i gotta open this crap up
XDaXBlessedX: yea
kage1182: dictionary.com
kage1182: just confirmed
XDaXBlessedX: that has nothign to do with movies
kage1182: that I'm right
kage1182: BANKABLE MOVIE STAR
kage1182: it says it right there
kage1182: obviously thats the meaning of the word
kage1182: "someone who brings profit"
kage1182: not Matt's special little defintion
kage1182: johnny depp and orlando bloom are both bankable
kage1182: maybe not in matt's world
kage1182: but int he real world they are
kage1182: THANK
kage1182: YOU
kage1182: I
kage1182: WIN
kage1182: give it up
kage1182: let it go
kage1182: stop typing
kage1182: it's over
kage1182: let it go
kage1182: seriously stop typing <---He should have logged off in shame, but he's one stubborn fother mucker.
XDaXBlessedX: kindgom of heaven starring orlando bloom estemated budget 130mil us gross 47mil not even close to a profit
kage1182: look up LOTR profits k?
XDaXBlessedX: maybe once u add all the other countries its close but hardly much of a profit if any
kage1182: UH OH I WIN
XDaXBlessedX: that would have profited without him though
kage1182: UH OH I WIN
XDaXBlessedX: u cant even cout that thats redicolys
kage1182: I can count that
kage1182: it propelled him to stardom and thus made him BANKABLE!
kage1182: ACCEPT IT
kage1182: you lost
XDaXBlessedX: no it didnt
kage1182: LOSE WITH DIGNITY MAN
XDaXBlessedX: cuase his next movie where he was the sole star
XDaXBlessedX: didnt make money
XDaXBlessedX: so he isnt bankable
kage1182: he's bankable
kage1182: people still saw it
XDaXBlessedX: no he inst
kage1182: you said yourself total gross it came on top
XDaXBlessedX: asd i dont know how to take the bold off
XDaXBlessedX: no i didnt
XDaXBlessedX: i said maybe it did
XDaXBlessedX: i dont even know im not adding all that shit up
kage1182: not every movie will be a success you said so yourself
XDaXBlessedX: but i doubt it did if it only grossed 47 in america
XDaXBlessedX: and besides no one makes movies to bairly make a profit
kage1182: Orlando bloom was still HOT in hollywood and that made him bankable
XDaXBlessedX: they alwyas think they are gona make a profit
XDaXBlessedX: those actors are just actors bankable actors are the guys that are gona make a kick ass profit
kage1182: And they got JOhnny Depp and Keira Knightly to back it up JUST TO MAKE THE MOVIE MORE BANKABLE
XDaXBlessedX: see ur not goin on any thing excpt stupid gossip shit
XDaXBlessedX: im goin on actuall numbers
XDaXBlessedX: u think screeming chicks equals more money
kage1182: 3 BANKABLE STARS THAT MAY BE DOWN ON THEIR LUCK RECENTLY BUT STILL PULL IN AUDIENCES TOGETHER CAN DRAW A CROWD TO A BIG BUDGET HOT AIR BALOON LIKE PIRATES OF THE CARRIBEAN
XDaXBlessedX: im sayin not in any significant relm
XDaXBlessedX: expcet for a few guys like will smith tom cruise ect
XDaXBlessedX: down on their luck!
XDaXBlessedX: dude
kage1182: their bankable
kage1182: accept it
XDaXBlessedX: orlando has never held a movie
kage1182: they have star power
XDaXBlessedX: elisebeth town
XDaXBlessedX: that movie was shit and didnt do well either
kage1182: yeah and he doesn't hold PIRATES EITHER
kage1182: but there are chicks who love him who saw it cuz he's in it
XDaXBlessedX: jus so u know man
XDaXBlessedX: all this im sayin about depp
XDaXBlessedX: is crap that ive heard on tv shows and in magazines
XDaXBlessedX: so its not just me saying it
kage1182: thats fine I form my own opinion <--Ok I felt like a dick for saying that but I mean COME ON ALREADY GIVE UP!
XDaXBlessedX: like people in the bizz have said that jonny was not considered banksable
kage1182: I don't listen to what hollywood says cuz they want you to like the movie and spend your money on it
XDaXBlessedX: ur so negitive and why would they say jonny isnt bankable if they are trying to get u to see a movie
XDaXBlessedX: im talking about lnside actors stuido
XDaXBlessedX: and shit like that
XDaXBlessedX: but anyway i gotta go to bed
XDaXBlessedX: peace dawg cat
XDaXBlessedX: we can argue tommorow
kage1182: because they're trying to make it sound like some big success story when it's just manufacture hollywood crap
kage1182: A big budget supported with 3 stars
kage1182: a SHO-WIN SITUATION FOR THE STUDIO
XDaXBlessedX: with out a doubt
XDaXBlessedX: but that doenst make johny bankable <---WHAT THE FUCK!!!
XDaXBlessedX: the movie was a pop corn movie even if it wasnt johnny
kage1182: hence they picked the actors because they knwe their star power would add to the films profits
kage1182: HENCE
kage1182: they are bankable
XDaXBlessedX: johnny doenst have star power like u think he does
kage1182: yes he does
kage1182: accept it
XDaXBlessedX: u think becuase its a house hold name or in tabloids that means people pay to see them
kage1182: it might not have been BRAD PITT kind of bankable
XDaXBlessedX: thats where ur wrong
kage1182: but he's a hosuehold name
XDaXBlessedX: sure there are the screaming girls
kage1182: people know him
XDaXBlessedX: but not to anny really significant level
XDaXBlessedX: its just a normal star
kage1182: there are packs of his fans from all the movies he made with Tim Burton
XDaXBlessedX: to be bankable is to be hire then the normal stars
kage1182: this is your MADE UP defintion of bankable
XDaXBlessedX: and none of those people go to see any of his other onse
kage1182: you realize this right?
XDaXBlessedX: yea but ur definition is basically the definition of any star
XDaXBlessedX: every star has a following of some sort
XDaXBlessedX: thast why they are a star
XDaXBlessedX: im saying there is a nother level to it
kage1182: my defintion is of a star who is big enough to bring in fans fo his own
XDaXBlessedX: the stars of stars
XDaXBlessedX: are bankable
kage1182: which you cannot deny johnny is
XDaXBlessedX: he is not a star of star as far as making money
XDaXBlessedX: he is as far as acting ability
kage1182: Ok so your telling me
kage1182: that NO ONE saw Pirates just cuz of Depp being in it
XDaXBlessedX: ur definition is the definition of every s tar
kage1182: I'm working off the defintion from dictionary.com
kage1182: the closest to an official defition we have
XDaXBlessedX: look dud
XDaXBlessedX: if ur in a few movies
XDaXBlessedX: ur an actor
kage1182: your using YOUR OWN defition
XDaXBlessedX: if alot of peiple like u
XDaXBlessedX: then ur a star
XDaXBlessedX: if u can garantee a crap load of profit ur bankable
kage1182: if your a star you add profit to movies your in
kage1182: hence you desirable to producers
XDaXBlessedX: i gotta go to bed
XDaXBlessedX: tomrow we continue
kage1182: just admit I won PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!